what do you think people need to know about the city? >> i think it has had a bad representative for a long time. liz: why? because of the river that caught fire? >> cleveland, first of all, people do not realize we are on a body of water that looks like an ocean. we have island out on the lake. jimmy buffett bill is out there. you have the water. cultural arts. one of the biggest and most proud orchestras in the world. art museum. of course, the rock 'n roll hall of fame. a very small footprint which allows you to navigate the city, feel safe and do this in a very short period of time. and, it is less expensive. liz: you do a great job, terry. terry stewart who is the ceo. they call it the mistake on the lake. i call it best location in the nation. coming up, big businessmen joining us exclusively. the president of the cleveland indians. they had their last game last night. they had a great first half of the season. collapsed in the second half. what will they do next year but back this is a team that has stuck by the city and vice vers